MBP 027: Season One Mix Tape

Posted by Johnny Leckie | Podcasts

Summary: This is a special “End of the Year Mix Tape” of Clips from the “7 Questions” episodes in Season One of The Ministry Backpack Podcast.

Thank you to all of the great pastors who were guests on the podcast this season. You are all brilliant and faithful leaders and your churches are blessed to have you!

Season One  “7 Questions” Full Episodes and Show Notes:

#002 – 7 Questions With Pastor Tony McCollum (Part 1)

#003 – 7 Questions With Pastor Tony McCollum (Part 2)

#005 – 7 Questions With Pastor Michael Feese (Part 1)

#006 – 7 Questions With Pastor Michael Feese (Part 2)

#007 – 7 Questions With Pastor Scott Hamilton

#009 – 7 Questions With Pastor Adam Young (Part 1)

#010 – 7 Questions With Pastor Adam Young (Part 2)

#012 – 7 Questions With Pastor Tyler Hettich (Part 1)

#013 – 7 Questions With Pastor Tyler Hettich (Part 2)

#015 – 7 Questions With Pastor Bill Leckie (Part 1)

#016 – 7 Questions With Pastor Bill Leckie (Part 2)

#017 – 7 Questions With Pastor Pat Webb

#019 – 7 Questions With Pastor Robert Pooley (Part 1)

#020 – 7 Questions With Pastor Robert Pooley (Part 2)

#022 – 7 Questions With Pastor Brad Rud (Part 1)

#023 – 7 Questions With Pastor Brad Rud (Part 2)

#025 – 7 Questions With “The Secret International Pastor of Mystery” (Part 1)

#026 – 7 Questions With “The Secret International Pastor of Mystery” (Part 2)

Join the conversation on this topic by commenting or leaving questions below. If you have a question that you’d like to have heard on the podcast, record your question, and upload it to Google Drive, Dropbox, Box or some other cloud based site and send the link to Hello@MinistryBackpack.com

Music Provided by “Artist Unknown” – https://artistunknown.bandcamp.com/ 
& “Rasputin1963

Photo by Felipe P. Lima Rizo on Unsplash

Show Notes: Seven Questions With “The Secret International Pastor of Mystery” (Part 2)

Summary: In this episode, I continue my interview with my good friend, who is currently serving in a country that is not too excited about him sharing the Gospel there. He has been in ministry for many years, is a church planter, and is doing this interview anonymously.

Some Highlights and Links From Today’s Show:

Currently In His “Ministry Backpack:”

How He Keeps His Family Relationships Strong:

(Currently, all of his kids are out of the nest, and are off to college.)

Now:

When His Kids Were Younger:

  • He involved himself in things that his kids were interested in, even when he wasn’t that interested those things himself.
  • When we do what God calls us to do, He provides for our kids. It’s almost like God cares about them more than we do… 😉

How He Structures His Work Week:

  • He has another business, but his main focus is starting churches. He spends a lot of time in coffee shops, having conversations.
  • His goal is to share a full Gospel presentation 5 times a week.
  • “The churches that are actually sharing their faith – it’s something that the Spirit of God does in you, that just energizes your church.”
  • “Imagine if your whole church was sharing their faith five times a week. And they come back together, and they want to grumble? I don’t think it’s going to happen.”
  • “If I share my faith 5 times a week, someone is going to come to faith in Christ.”

Book – “The Insanity of God” by Nik Ripken

On Discipleship:

“I just want to draw us back to the idea of discipleship being ‘life on life.'”

“I wish I would have had somebody who had walked with me early on, and had not just given me all the answers, but asked me more questions.”

“Invest in a few guys until they can invest in a few more guys, then find some more guys and do it again.”

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Show Notes: Seven Questions With “The Secret International Pastor of Mystery” (Part 1)

Summary: In this episode, I interview my good friend, who is currently serving in a country that is not too excited about him sharing the Gospel there. He has been in ministry for many years, and is a church planter and businessman. For security purposes, he is doing this interview anonymously.  Throughout the interview, I call him “James,” “Ralph,” Fred,” and whatever name pops in my head at the moment…

Some Highlights and Links From Today’s Show:

A Few Things He Would Do Differently:

  • He would focus more on “multiplication” in his ministry (Working on the things he is gifted in, and delegating/training others to work on the things he’s not in order to multiply the effectiveness and scope of his ministry).
  • He would focus on discipleship that is more “life on life,” than “programmatic.”
  • With guidance, he would help people begin serving in areas in which they feel called, even before they are fully trained.
  • Without it becoming catastrophic, or setting them up to crash, he would allow people to fail more, helping them to learn and grow as a part of the “training” process.
  • He would focus far more on people than programs. “It is about the numbers, but it’s more about the people ‘in’ those numbers…”
  • He would have dreamed bigger, “God dreams,” regarding what people could go on to do.

Experiencing God – “What is God doing and how can I join Him?”

  • He would ask, “God, what do You want to do here? What do You want to do in me, to expand my capacity and dreams that I haven’t even thought of?” Ephesians 3:21-22

How He’s Doing Ministry Now:

  • He trains and disciples in the pattern set in 2 Timothy 2:2 (a “four generational” mindset).
  • He communicates the expectation to new believers that they are to share their faith. Matthew 28:19
  • The process flows like this: New Believer –>Baptized –>Begins sharing their faith. It’s one of the first things they are trained to do.
  • “Here’s how I shared my faith with you, now you go and do the same in your culture and context.”
  • Believers baptize other believers, without haivng to wait for a “Pastor” to do it.
  • He hangs out in coffee shops, and has conversations with people. He tells people that he’s a follower of Christ within the first or second times he meets someone.
  • When meeting someone new, he uses a “Red/Yellow/Green Light” approach in sharing the Gospel:

Red Light – (Person is combative) The Spirit isn’t working in that moment, so he waits for another time.

Yellow Light – (Curious, has questions) He uses his “book” the Bible, to show what He believes and how it connects and conflicts with their current beliefs.

Green Light – (Open, Interested, Wanting Direction) He dives directly into the Bible and shares the Gospel.

Join the conversation on this topic by commenting or leaving questions below. If you have a question that you’d like to have heard on the podcast, record your question, and upload it to Google Drive, Dropbox, Box or some other cloud based site and send the link to Hello@MinistryBackpack.com

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Ministry Backpack Podcast Episode 24 Show Notes:

Summary: In today’s podcast I talk about an essential quality for Christian Leaders – Sincere Love

Resources and Links mentioned in this episode:

2 Corinthians 6:6
“by purity, by knowledge, by patience, by kindness, by the Holy Spirit, by sincere love,”- CSB

“Sincere Love”

“Love”Agape
“Sincere” – Unfeigned, Without Hypocrisy

The essential of “Kindness” bleeds into the essential of “Sincere Love.

“Here’s the thing about sincerity – if you’re faking it, you don’t have it.”

When You Display The Backpack Essential of “Sincere Love”:

* You have a genuine compassion for people

When Paul says that he cares about the people in the churches that he writes to, he genuinely means it, and they know that he means it.

You don’t see your church or group as a “faceless crowd.”

“You’re not just pretending to care about people. You’re not just saying things from the stage that makes you ‘sound’ more loving and caring – you really love them. You really care about them.”

* You have no hidden agenda based on personal ambition.

You don’t use people to reach your goals.

You avoid the danger of applying the “Law of the ‘Me, Too.”

31 Refutably Refutable Laws of Lame Leadership, Law #23:

“If other organizations are participating in an event or emphasis, table your own mission, goals and plans. Jump in with them in order to have a ‘presence.’ Call it an opportunity.”

* You are not a phony.

Romans 12:9
“Love must be without hypocrisy….” HCSB
“Love must be sincere…” NIV
“Don’t just pretend to love others. Really love them….” NLT

“When you’re fake, people pick up on it right away. They begin to roll their eyes when you begin to talk about your love for them and the people you say you’re trying to reach, because they know that you’re full of baloney.”

“It’s very easy to “fake it” in ministry. Having “Sincere Love” in ministry involves investing your life in the people you lead.”

“What you actually do reveals the sincerity of what you say.”

Suggestions For Developing The Essential of “Sincere Love”:

1. Honest Prayer – Get alone with God and ask Him to give you genuine love for the people that you lead.

2. Gut Check – Examine your motives and goals in your ministry. Are you serving to build your own kingdom? Are you serving with envy or selfish ambition?

James 3:16
“For where envy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every kind of evil.” HCSB

3. “No Glory” Motivation Exercise – Serve, Give or Help someone as God leads, then do not tell anyone about it – Not even as a sermon illustration.

4. Be Full of the Right Thing – “Whatever you are full of, you will overflow wtih.” So be overflowing with sincere love.

Seek to follow the example of Paul’s Sincere Love for the churches:

Philippians 1:7-9
7 Indeed, it is right for me to think this way about all of you, because I have you in my heart,[a] and you are all partners with me in grace, both in my imprisonment and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel. 8 For God is my witness, how deeply I miss all of you with the affection of Christ Jesus. 9 And I pray this: that your love will keep on growing in knowledge and every kind of discernment,” CSB

v. 9 “…that your love may abound more and more…” ESV
v. 9 “…that your love will overflow more and more…” NLT

Join the conversation on this topic by commenting or leaving questions below. If you have a question that you’d like to have heard on the podcast, record your question, and upload it to Google Drive, Dropbox, Box or some other cloud based site and send the link to Hello@MinistryBackpack.com

Music Provided by “Artist Unknown” – https://artistunknown.bandcamp.com/

Previous episodes in this series:

#004 – A Backpack Essential For Christian Leaders: A Higher Standard

#008 – A Backpack Essential For Christian Leaders: Resilience

#011 – A Backpack Essential For Christian Leaders: Purity

#014 – A Backpack Essential For Christian Leaders: Understanding

#018 – A Backpack Essential For Christian Leaders: Patience

#021 – A Backpack Essential For Christian Leaders: Kindness

When someone says something about “The War on Christmas,” it cracks me up for a variety of reasons. Particularly because there really isn’t one. But mostly because whatever we imagine that to be, it’s nothing compared to the “war” on Thanksgiving.  Which is actually more of an “Ignore” on Thanksgiving.

You remember Thanksgiving, don’t you? That American and Canadian holiday that is slowly disappearing as a unique holiday?

Maybe you know it best as “Turkey Day,” whatever that means. If it really is “Turkey Day,” I suppose in some ways, it might as well be Groundhog Day. Except we don’t eat the Groundhog. (But if the turkey sees his shadow, we will have six more weeks of Christmas…)

Yes, I’m talking about Thanksgiving, that poor little holiday that has sort of become an optional, “special feature” of Christmas. In and of itself, it is not flashy, sparkly, or commercially driven, which probably explains why it has also become more of a “Black Friday Eve,” than anything else. And “Black Friday,” a name once associated with the Stock Market Crash of 1869, has now become the “holiday” that ushers in the “middle” of the Christmas season.

But most snarkiness aside, I’m beginning to think that there really is no longer room or place in American culture, today, for a holiday like Thanksgiving.

Think about it. A time for family, gathered around a table to thank God for the blessings of the year? Not exactly common, these days. Sadly, this is a Norman Rockwell scene that is fast becoming a faded relic of the past in our world.

And that’s really a shame, because it’s the holiday that we need now more than ever.

Do we get presents? No.
Is there a Tree? No.
Are there sparkly decorations? No.

But there’s an even more revealing question:
Can we celebrate it without acknowledging God? No.

“…Happy Turkey, Gluttony, Football and Christmas Shopping Day, everybody!”

Oh. Well, yeah, I guess you can, now.

But not if you’re giving it any attention, because even the name and origin of the holiday points to something bigger.

Most major American holidays have some kind of origin or roots in pagan rituals or holidays:

Christmas – Winter Solstice and Yuletide.

HalloweenSamhain and Lord knows what.

Easter – Fertility festivals and the beginning of spring.

The church has rightfully redeemed these times with more meaningful reasons to celebrate, but the parallels are still there. You can celebrate most holidays these days without acknowledging God on any level.

Not so with Thanksgiving.

In the United States, it was originally for the giving of thanks for the bounty of the year’s harvest and God’s blessing, and in Canada, it was for the giving of thanks for the recovery of the Prince of Wales from a serious illness.

But no matter how you slice the turkey, it’s still about giving thanks.

But the idea of “giving thanks” begs the question: “Giving Thanks to Who?” or rather, “To Whom?” (Although “to Whom?” sure sounds “stuffy.” No need to “dress it up,” though.)

Thanks to each other? Sort of, I guess.

Thanks to the Earth?  Hmm, “Thanks, Earth.” Kind of misses something. Besides, Earth has it’s own day, now.

Thanks to nothing? If so, I guess we could just call it, “Happy Lucky For Us Day” (With apologies to St. Patrick).

It’s kind of hard to avoid God in Thanksgiving, if you truly celebrate it. But that’s one of the things that makes it so special.

But there’s also something else on display here:  our collective loss of patience and self control, as Thanksgiving falls by the wayside. The ability to wait for something. To pace ourselves.

By 8:15 p.m. on Halloween night this year, I drove past a house that had already put up its Christmas Decorations. Wow, in a hurry, much?

I think Christmas is a glorious holiday, but too much of a good thing is like too much dessert. Obviously, Christmas is not a dessert. I just mean that it has a “specialness” all it’s own that doesn’t need to be shared with a different holiday. …And it’s worth waiting for.

What if I told you that our church was going to be celebrating Mother’s Day, Father’s Day and Memorial Day at Easter this year, because they’re all part of the “Spring Holidays?” That would be goofy, because there is something distinctive about those observances that deserves individual attention.

Consider the satisfying sequence of the American Fall Holidays, if they occurred in a more perfect world:

Halloween – Fall is in full swing, the stresses, frustrations, and fears that have built up over the summer are released with outlandish costumes, parties and “boo’s!” We laugh in the face of evil, death and the things that scare us.

Thanksgiving – As the year is approaching its end and the fall harvest time has arrived, we enjoy a time of reflection. We acknowledge God’s blessings from the whole year and enjoy food and laughter with family. We take and release a deep breath of gratitude to our Maker and Provider.

Christmas – Winter is on it’s way; wonder is in the air. Candles, lights, songs, ornaments, decorations, trees, presents and joy receive full focus, now, celebrating the birth of the Savior of the World.

New Year’s Eve & Day – We celebrate life with friends, reflect on lessons learned, set new goals, and dedicate a new year to God.

Now consider the way things are today:

Halloween – The nightmare before Christmas and the weird beginning of the Christmas Season.

Thanksgiving Dinner/Black Friday – Nice supper and shopping in in the middle of more Christmas shopping.

Christmas – Starts at Halloween and is really the only holiday we’re talking about here. Tinsle, trees and lights for two and a half months.

The pace is off. The hurry is on. And the ability to savor and enjoy each celebration has gotten a little muddy.

I don’t know. These are just holidays we’re talking about here, not the Bible or doctrine, but I think we’re beginning to lose something special as Thanksgiving begins to fade. Something important. Something we need.

But I’m really not a Scrooge. If you have your Christmas Tree up before Thanksgiving, I’m not mad at you or judging you.  If you break out the Christmas cups before you’ve eaten the Thanksgiving Turkey, it’s not the end of the world. Heck, I listen to Christmas music at various times during the year, myself.

I’m just encouraging you to focus on Thanksgiving as Thanksgiving. A holiday with it’s own focus and meaning. A holiday of Thanksgiving to God for His blessings in our life.  (Psalm 106:1)

I love Christmas.

But I love Christmas more, when it actually follows Thanksgiving.

Until then, Happy “HalloThanksMas,” every one. Happy HalloThanksMas.

————

 Johnny Leckie is a Christ Follower, Husband to Leona, and Father to Matthew, Melissa & Michael. He is also a Church Planting Pastor, Musician, Artist, & Blogger. He’s a big fan of Coffee & Bacon and is currently planting a Church in Aurora, Colorado called Compass Church.  He is the founder of MinistryBackpack.com.

Just In Time For The Holidays

Posted by Johnny Leckie | Shop

The Ministry Backpack Shop is now open! 

We’re starting with the simple stuff for now – Calendars, Stickers and such…

Because the holidays and the “Gift Giving” season of Christmas is upon us, I thought it’d be a good idea to make available some possible gifts for Pastors and ministers out there.

With rare exception, all of the images and quotes have appeared here on the site, our Facebook page, or the Podcast this past year.

I recommend ordering one of the 2 calendars that are available:

  • The Ministry Backpack 12 Month Base Camp Calendar contains Quotes, Images and Encouragement
  • The Ministry Backpack 12 Month Trail View Calendar contains Images only.

I dig ’em both.  Or maybe get a couple of stickers.  But to order something to arrive in time for Christmas, I encourage you to order soon.

In the days ahead, there will be a number of helpful, encouraging and fun things that will be appearing in the shop.

Thanks for taking the long trail of ministry with us.  There are some good things around the bend…

Johnny

Ministry Backpack Full Shop

Show Notes: Seven Questions With Pastor Brad Rud – Part 2

Summary: In this episode, I continue my interview with my longtime friend and brother-in-law, Pastor Brad Rud. Brad and his wife, Laura, have a long history at the Crossing Church in Chugiak, Alaska. Laura grew up in Chugiak, and the Crossing is the first church Brad attended as a new Christian. They were also married and baptized in this church! After spending a number of years teaching school and one hitch as an Army Paratrooper, Brad was excited to be able to serve the Crossing family full-time. Alaska is the perfect setting to combine his love for adventure with his passion for people. Brad is an avid hiker, mountain climber, and coffee drinker. Like many Alaskans he enjoys hunting and fishing . He also loves working with youth, and coaches high school basketball and volleyball.

The Crossing
http://www.CrossingAK.com

Some Highlights and Links From Today’s Show:

Brad’s Basic Schedule:

“Ministry is life; life is ministry.”

Mondays: Staff day. 45 minutes of staff prayer time/ share with each other who they shared Christ with and how things went in each ministry from the week before. Victories are shared. This is followed by focusing on the upcoming week.

  • Most of the Staff takes Friday and Saturday off. (Alaska is so huge, that it takes more time to do much recreationally. It’s hard to do the things Alaskans do in just a day.)
  • Brad’s schedule is flexible and relational – it varies from week to week.

Sundays –
Two services, 9 a.m. and 11 a.m.

* Brad usually arrives between 2 and 3 in the morning! He starts with a big mug of coffee, then for about an hour, he opens the Bible, asking the Holy Spirit to show him anything he’s missed in the message. Then for another hour or so, he prays for lost people by name, his family, his staff, and multiple prayer requests from his prayer journal. he follows this prayer time with reading and a short nap.

Around 5:30 or 6:00 a.m., he goes back through his message notes, which are typed out as a “full manuscript.”

(His sermon is “always more than his notes, but never less than.”)

At 7 a.m., he prays with some pastors on staff, and at 8 a.m. he prays with his elders.

Brad’s messages are available on their church’s website:
http://www.CrossingAK.com

To younger pastors, Brad says:

“Pursue a holy life. Be in the world, but not of the world – not the other way around.”

“As a leader of the flock, rather than asking, ‘What am I free to do?’ ask, ‘What is helpful? What is beneficial?'”

“Those who are spiritually mature are always willing to limit their own freedom for the sake of the Gospel and for the sake of living a holy life.”

“It’s your genuine love for people that breaks down the walls, not the fact that you’re exactly like all of the people that you are trying to reach.”

Brad recommends that people in the Aurora, Colorado area to check out the possibility of serving at Compass Church (http://www.CompassDenver.com) 😀

Join the conversation on this topic by commenting or leaving questions below. If you have a question that you’d like to have heard on the podcast, record your question, and upload it to Google Drive, Dropbox, Box or some other cloud based site and send the link to Hello@MinistryBackpack.com

Music Provided by “Artist Unknown” – https://artistunknown.bandcamp.com/

Show Notes: Seven Questions With Pastor Brad Rud

Summary: In this episode, I interview my longtime friend and brother-in-law, Pastor Brad Rud. Brad and his wife, Laura, have a long history at the Crossing Church in Chugiak, Alaska. Laura grew up in Chugiak, and the Crossing is the first church Brad attended as a new Christian. They were also married and baptized in this church! After spending a number of years teaching school and one hitch as an Army Paratrooper, Brad was excited to be able to serve the Crossing family full-time.

Alaska is the perfect setting to combine his love for adventure with his passion for people. Brad is an avid hiker, mountain climber, and coffee drinker. Like many Alaskans he enjoys hunting and fishing . He also loves working with youth, and coaches high school basketball and volleyball.  Brad and I share the same birthday, and he was once a record holder in the Guinness Book of World Records for paddle boating down the Mississippi River.

The Crossing
http://www.CrossingAK.com

Some Highlights and Links From Today’s Show:

A Few Things That Brad would do differently:

  • Brad would be more cautious in listening to the Holy Spirit regarding hiring staff and appointing lay leaders in different positions in ministry.
  • He would listen to the “red flags” that the Holy Spirit promts in him when interviewing and hiring staff.
  • He now includes more team members in the hiring process, making it more of a collaborative effort.
  • Because Alaska, the least churched state in the union, doesn’t have seminary students and a big pool of people seeking staff positions, he often hires staff from outside of the state. He always seeks to hire from within the church first, however.

Resources Brad Is Currently Using:

Book:
They Found The Secret” by Raymond Edman

Book:
The Spirit Filled Life” by John MacNeil

Book:
Intercessor” by Rees Howell

Book:
The Practice of the Presence of God” by Brother Lawrence [Free version here]

Book:
How They Prayed Vol 3 Missionaries and Revival” by Edwin F Harvey

The Bible – “Speak Lord, your servant is listening…”

On Keeping His Family Relationships Strong:

– When the kids were younger, they made a big deal about holidays, birthdays and having dinner together every night.

– Brad and his wife pray together for their kids continuously.

–  He made an effort to be intentional about actually interacting with his kids when they were together, rather than just being in the same room with each other.

– He and his wife would have specific “date days” with each of their kids, emphasizing “quantity of time” and “quality time.

– Brad schedules some of his personal recreational activities “around the margins.” For example, he and his mountain climbing buddies would schedule their climbs very early in the morning so that they could finish their climb, get to work on time, and not take time away from their families.

– Through their kids’ college years, he regularly mailed photos of things they had done together as a family to his kids. He would write a letter of encouragement on the back of the photo.

Join the conversation on this topic by commenting or leaving questions below. If you have a question that you’d like to have heard on the podcast, record your question, and upload it to Google Drive, Dropbox, Box or some other cloud based site and send the link to Hello@MinistryBackpack.com

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Ministry Backpack Podcast Episode 21 Show Notes:

Summary: In today’s podcast I talk about an essential quality for Christian Leaders – Kindness

Resources and Links mentioned in this episode:

2 Corinthians 6:6a,b
(But in everthing, as God’s ministers, we commend ourselves) “By purity, by knowledge, by patience, by kindness…”

“Kindness” – “Useful kindness,” demonstrating goodness, meeting needs in God’s way

  • Kindness is more than just “niceness.”
  • Kindness is not passive. It is a goodness that is being bestowed on and demonstrated to others.
  • Kindness involves administering God’s grace to others.

Kindness reflects God’s character:
Romans 2:4 – “Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance?” – ESV

  • Kindness is a fruit of the spirit. Galatians 5:22
  • This kind of kindness is distinctively necessary quality of Christian leaders.

“Kindness demonstrates spiritual maturity. It shows that you are “walking in the Spirit.” As you are filled and empowered by God’s Holy Spirit, you cannot help but be growing in kindness toward the people you lead.”

When You Are Displaying “Kindness” In Your Ministry Leadership:

1. You Are Not Cruel.

You don’t “Lord it over” those you lead.

Matthew 20:25-26
25 Jesus called them over and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and those in high positions act as tyrants over them. 26 It must not be like that among you. On the contrary, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant.” – CSB

1 Peter 5:3
“Not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock.” – CSB

You are not like “King Iron Fist,” Rehoboam: 1 Kings 12

2. You Actually Care About The People You Lead.

When you care about people the way that God cares about you, you begin to “shepherd” people with kindness.

3. You Show Respect To The People You Lead.

By showing respect to people that you lead, you demonstrate that God has plans and purposes in them.

* To be clear, displaying kindness in your ministry does not mean that you’re not a pushover, who’s “everybody’s friend.” Consider, for example,  a coach who is tough, but who is also kind.

“When, as Christian leaders, we demonstrate kindness, we’re not demonstrating weakness – we’re demonstrating goodness.”

4. You Encourage The People You Lead.

Encouragement shows kindness that is displayed by building people up.

Final thoughts: Don’t be a jerk. 🙂

“The kind of person you are flows into the kind of leader that you are.”

Join the conversation on this topic by commenting or leaving questions below. If you have a question that you’d like to have heard on the podcast, record your question, and upload it to Google Drive, Dropbox, Box or some other cloud based site and send the link to Hello@MinistryBackpack.com

Music Provided by “Artist Unknown” – https://artistunknown.bandcamp.com/

Previous episodes in this series:

#004 – A Backpack Essential For Christian Leaders: A Higher Standard

#008 – A Backpack Essential For Christian Leaders: Resilience

#011 – A Backpack Essential For Christian Leaders: Purity

#014 – A Backpack Essential For Christian Leaders: Understanding

#018 – A Backpack Essential For Christian Leaders: Patience

Show Notes: Seven Questions With Robert Pooley

Summary: In this episode, I continue my interview with Pastor Robert Pooley. Robert is the Founding Pastor of Coast Community Church in Gulf Breeze, Florida, which he planted over 19 years ago. Robert has served as a youth pastor, was a member of the “Keith Shealy Band” back in the day, and has lived and served in California, Washington, D.C., and North Carolina. He is married to Vicki, and their daughter is Leanna.

Coast Community Church
http://www.coastcommunity.org

Some Highlights and Links From Today’s Show:

On Keeping His Family Relationships Strong:

– Robert Keeps a “Day Off.” He stresses that it is one of the “Big Ten” (commandments) and that it is vitally important. He views it as a “Personal Sabbath Day.” He usually spends this day with his wife.

– Robert intentionally makes “Time to Listen” and just sit around and talk. He turns his phone off when he goes out to dinner.

– With his family, he strives to “make memories together.” As he puts it, “Have fun. Laugh. Be a family.”

Robert’s Basic Schedule:

  • Every day begins with a quiet time, getting into the Word and spending time with the Lord in worship, allowing Him to speak to his soul.
  • Every day he finds time to engage with people on social media and to encourage people.
  • Each week he looks for opportunities to meet with people for lunch and through phone calls.

Monday:
Day off. He starts this day by listening to a sermon from a Pastor that he respects. The rest of the day he spends with his wife, going to the movies, going out to eat or to hang out on the beach.

Tuesday:
Morning – Prep for staff meeting/Later breakfast with some friends from church
Afternoon – Staff Meeting/Other meetings/Message Prep/Reading
(Once a Month) Pastor’s Small Group
Evening – Occasional meetings

Wednesday:
Morning – Writing
Noon – All Church Intercessory Prayer Gathering
Afternoon – Appointments/Study Time

Thursday:
Morning – Finalize message notes
Afternoon – Appointments/Study for Small Group
Evening – Leads a Small Group Bible Study
[Robert feels that all Pastors should lead a Small Group Bible Study in order to stay close to the needs of people and stay grounded. He is currently doing an “old style” Bible Study, going verse by verse through a book of the Bible.]

Friday:
Morning – Sends message notes out with commentary to his Tech Team and Worship Team to get them into the system for Sunday Morning. They discuss video options that have been prepared at this point. / Works on the Church email Newsletter
Afternoon – Finalizes Message For Sunday/Prays over the points of the message/Asks God to prepare him for the message

Saturday:
Morning – Last “tweaks” to the message/Goes over it several times
Afternoon – In the fall – Watch Football & “Trash Talk” 🙂
Shuts everything down after 2pm to begin preparing mentally, physically and spiritually for Sunday

Sunday:
Morning
– Gets up early, goes through the message one more time and prays / Gets to church an hour and a half early (8:30 a.m.) and connects with and encourages team members and other people before the service
Noon – Every week, after the service, he tries to go out to lunch with someone from his church – particularly new people.
Afternoon – Afternoon nap

4 p.m. -“Growth Track’
(https://www.arcchurches.com/establishing-growth-track-small-groups-strategy)

Track 1 – Knowing God – walking in relationship with Him
Track 2 – Finding Freedom – from hurts, habits and hangups /”You can get people out of Egypt, but then you have to get Egypt out of the people.”
Track 3 – Discovering your Purpose
Track 4 – Making a Difference

Grow Network:
https://www.growleader.com/

Annually – He “sees his hometown in the rear-view mirror.” (Takes a Vacation)

Robert is currently working on a Book – Due to launch by early 2018. We’ll update with a link when it is available!

If you are a pastor who is dealing with depression or burnout in ministry, and would like to talk about it and get some encouragement from someone who has been through it, feel free to contact Robert on Facebook: @Robert.Pooley.

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